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washington the benefit of the doubt so far today. we've had no real progress to speak of on the fiscal cliff. the president did speak publicly about it today. but we haven't exactly taken any step backwards either on wall street as far as the major averages go. we have had more special dividends declared, which we'll get to. first, get you caught up on the markets. kind of a meandering day. a few economic bits of data out today. other than that, not a lot going on as far as economic data go. we're all just waiting to see that white puff of smoke come out of washington and nothing yet so far. the dow virtually unchanged right now at 12,966. the nasdaq is down seven points right now. we'll talk with seema mody about that. and the s&p 500 index at this hour is down 1.80 in change at 1407. in today's "closing bell" exchange, we go over what is going on as we head toward the end of the year. seema mody is at the nasdaq today. jeff, what do you make of what's going on in washington? i'm most interested in the fact that the markets have lost the volatili volatility. we're not seeing the markets res
from washington. members only. membership has its privileges. we're 26 days away from going over the fis calf cliff and these are members of the house of representatives walking out. they're going home. no session tomorrow, long weekend. they need a rest. i hope someone can explain this to me. >>> the bears taking a big bite out of apple computer today. the stock getting hammered. has apple lost its mojo or does the company still have room to run? >>> and city, the big slash. knife coming down on 1,000 jobs. the cfo is set to speak about the shake-up right now and we will have the very latest on this very widely held stock which has been moving higher tod today. >>> we have a rally on our hands despite some downward pressure in apple. two of the biggest names in the most widely held stocks around, citi and apple topping the news this hour. headlines aren't good. apple right now is down about 4%. back in bear market territory, down 22% from their historic intraday high of $705 set back in september. right now shares are trading at $551.33. bob pisani joins me on the floor of the n
to be for the rising movie industry. cet will head out to washington as president obama is pushing forward his tax for the wealthy agenda. george osbourne is going to update today. the chancellor will have his work cut out to meet his target of eradicating the federal deficit by 2015 as well as securing a fall to gdp ratio. also expected further pressure with a cut to its growth forecast. steve is braving rather inclement british winter weather outside the houses of parliament. >> lovely. >> i know you like it. how much is it going to be raining on george osbourne's parade? >> it's going to rain on his parade. you just nailed it, ross. three things which are going to come up today, which he has very little control over. one is that obr reckoning on the uk economy. thought only back in march it was going to grow -- pain a negative growth for the year. next year they thought it was going to be 2% growth. it's probably only going to be 1%. in terms of those two targets you mentioned, eradicating the structural deficit in a five-year period, that's going to have another couple of years. >> right. now,
>>> from nbc news in washington, the world's longest running news program. this is "meet the press." >> that's one of our key jobs, helping to restore american faith, what the stock market is all about. i have a certain vision for what this country is going to be for my kids. that gives me purpose. >> optimistic yesterday, but we don't yet see an agreement. now the pressure is on congress to produce. if they don't, what i've said is that in the senate, we should go ahead and introduce legislation that would make sure middle class taxes stay where they are and there should be an up or down vote. everybody should have a right to vote on that. if republicans don't like it, they can vote no. but i actually think there's a majority support for making sure the middle class families are held harmless. >> if you go over to cliff, what's the impact on the markets which have been pretty confident now it would get done? >> it's hard to speculate on the market, but obviously, i think business and investors will feel more negative about the economy next year. if you look at projections of 2013,
no idea what is the future because of washington. >> given the data points that we've had in terms of claims numbers that did reflect an impact from sandy, they said 85,000 jobs or 86,000 jobs were sliced because of impact of sandy. average hours worked unchanged. doesn't that -- i don't know -- doesn't that bring into question a little bit the participation in the survey. how can it have no impact whatsoever? it seems curious to me. >> it does call into question whether these numbers can be accurate. we have been starting to think let's check accuracy. why isn't this done by s.a.p.? why aren't numbers done by oracle or salesforce.com. >> those are private companies. i'm just saying that you wouldn't question the data if it was done by a company that got a contract like s.a.p. and put these numbers together. i am beginning to question how these numbers are put together. that number was -- i agree with you. sandy has no impact? >> on number of hours worked. >> a lot of country was shut down during sandy. >> even before the number hit, people were saying you got to incorporate poll w
going to get serious. >> washington remains. >> that is a bad strategy for america. it is a bad strategy for your businesses and it is not a game i will play. >> but the fiscal cliff still looms. cnbc has called on lawmakers to rise above gridlock and reach a deal. now we're beating down their doors. live from our nation's capital, this is a cnbc special report. mission critical, rise above d.c. >>> welcome back from our nation's capital. i'm mario bartiromo with brian sullivan. we continue our fiscal cliff coverage, "mission critical, rise above d.c." we've heard a lot after a morning of interviews and action on capitol hill. here is what we know now. just a short while ago house speaker boehner said he's still waiting on a solid plan from president obama. >> i'm hopeful we can reach an agreement. this is a serious issue. there's a lot at stake. the person people sent us here to work together towards the best possible solution, and that means cutting spending. the president doesn't agree with our approach, he's got an obligation to put forward a plan that can pass both chambers of the c
. all day long on cnbc, we are here in washington holding lawmakers feet to the fire and finding out if they are doing their part to rise above partisan politics and reach a deal on the fiscal cliff. good morning again, everybody. i'm becky quick. here is what we know right now. the pace of private talks picking up speed as we now have just 20 days left. however, neither the white house nor house speaker boehner's office are giving any public indication that either side is yet prepared to give up real ground. on a road trip yesterday, president obama indicated that he is willing to compromise, just not on that point about an increase in tax for relthy americans. meantime, speaker boehner says he is still waiting on specific spending cuts. joining us now for analysis, tony fratto, of hamilton place strategies and former white house press secretary and gerald bernstein former economic adviser to vice president joe biden. gentlemen, thank you for being here with us and getting this special day of coverage kicked off for us. >> rising early and rising above. >> exactly. let's talk about
out earlier today and saying no progress has been made in the negotiations. our chief washington correspondent john harwood is here with the latest. >> reporter: we ended the week with a fairly perfect, simple, clear, elegant expression of the partisan differences in this fight. speaker boehner came out and gave a press conference where he essentially said president obama has done nothing to compromise with republicans. here's the speaker. >> four days ago we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there's been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow-walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: not surprisingly, democratic house leader nancy pelosi had precisely the opposite explanation for what is behind this stalemate. she says republicans simply echoing the white house are going to have to buckle on the issue of the top rates. >> the only obstacle standing in the way of middle income tax relief are the repub
it totally mythical numbers, that nothing is actually being done at all. >> "the washington post" did a column on this where they look through some of tim geithner's numbers and it was a little concerning. >> smoke in mirrors. >> goes after the entitlements. >> but this is the deal that's going to happen. the cuts there are going to be real or the republicans won't play. >> right. >> and in return, the revenue side of the equation is going to be more consistent with what the president's looking for. i think he's serious about the rates. >> you can't even guarantee that guys like demint and that wing of the part -- you saw what he said yesterday. >> i didn't see what he said. >> he said no way. 800 billion in tax increases. we're saying it now like it's normal. 25% of gdp for government spending and you've got bloated government already, you start there. you start at government spending. you don't immediately start spending another 50 billion in stimulus. >> that's going to be the question that boehner has to deal with. the president will have to deal with the far wings of his party. b
earthquake the market will think something is going to happen in early january this is the way washington works, they walk right up to the edge of the deal, maybe even past the edge of the deal and then something happens. i still think the market believes there will be a deal, but it is a deal that might happen on january 14th. so, i don't think december 31st is a real deadline, in the mark it's mind. >> steve, tell us, what are the things that can happen that will sort of rouse the market here, move the market up or down ire way? >> well, first of all, i think the tendency for the market right now is to go higher because you have zero interest rates and zero interest rates act as a tremendous stock market flotation device. opposing investments are, you know, yielding essentially nothing at this point, so stocks become very attractive. but i still think the big story and the stories that most traders will be watching is the fiscal cliff so that's story number one. an interesting thing happened yesterday and that's the price of oil traded to an all-time high going back to october, not an a
in washington, d.c. that's the effect of this unlimited print mag sheen that the federal reserve has. >> let's put some gold into the equation. gold as legal tender. thanks very much to shawn fowler. now speaking of gold, thieves impersonating policemen boarded a boat in curacao and stole 70 gold bars worth an estimated $75 million. sounds like a thriller. authorities say there were six thieves wearing jackets with patches saying police who assaulted the captain and took off the gold in three cars. authorities say the shipment was legal but won't say who owned the gold or where it was headed. now, let's turn and do some stock market work. consumer spending fell in a new report out today. so did real disposable income. could have something to do with superstorm sandy. weak in yesterday's third quarter gdp report. profits, and these are the broadest gdp profits, covering about 5 million large and small companies really came in pretty good in the third quarter. up 9% from a year ago. so even though business looks weak, good profits could be the backbone of the stock market despite the hysteria
's going on in washington. i'm not sure who those republicans are. i'm not so sure on whether the fiscal conservatives in the party know something about some big reforms on medicare and medica medicare, social security is, any of the retirement or tax issues, but i'll tell you this. i think that all these stories aren't necessarily going lead us to the truth. i personally have a very size way i'm approaching this. the president is supposed to leave for a 21-day vacation in hawaii on december 17th. where he is on december 18th will tell me, and i think the markets will pay attention. i find it hard to believe, and i agree with bill and many, who are very not amused by the house taking their long weekend. i'm sure that the president would have no intentions of leaving until these issues are resolved. i think the market is being kind, but i think it's a timing issue. >> yeah, i think that's a good point. somebody mentioned the other day that the president is planning a trip to hawaii on december 17th. i said, what? they said, no, no, no, not unless the deal is done. we'll see about that. me
up. i'm concerned that we're debasing our currency to a certain extent. washington has yet to revoke the laws of supply and demand, and we certainly have supplied the economy with a massive amount of liquidity with the same goods and services, the balance has to be priced, and a price situation is going to be higher levels of inflation and they are keeping rates down pretty much right now. >> yeah. >> we have a diminishing level of return, and that's what's happening. we're pushing rates down, but it's not having the impact. >> lower bang for your qe buck as steve liesman put it earlier on. >> thanks for joining us. always good to see you, eyore pento. >> putting fire into the conversation. >> thank you. >>> so much for the holiday cheer. with the rate things are going in washington, there will be plenty of holiday jeer between now and the new year. >> the president's called for $1.4 trillion worth of revenue. that cannot pass the house or the senate. >>> well, two former presidential candidates face off after the break. i feel like i'm going back to 2008 or 2004. steve forbes says n
. i want to get to washington with some of the latest headlines regarding speaker boehner and what eamon is referring to as plan b. >> what we know is the speaker is in the basement of the capital building here right now, meeting with republican lawmakers to brief them on the status of the fiscal cliff negotiation, and what a gop leadership aide is now telling news news is the speaker is now prepared to offer what he's calling a plan b, or a modified plan b in which we don't do the grand big deal that the president and speaker of the negotiating on, but instead do something much smaller that would eliminate the pending tax increases for all americans, the speaker saying that he would like to have some kind of a deal, a modified scaled-down proposal now that would eliminate those for as many people as he can. the details are very sketchy on what modified plan b actually means in practice. but basically, it's something he can keep in his hip pocket right now in case these negotiations with the president don't bear fruit. and presumably what we're talking about here, carl, is a little
comes out of washington, if anything. of course, mr. boehner has gone back to his home in ohio for the weekend. the president is on duty at the white house. there are phones, as mr. boehner said, in southern ohio where he lives. if there are any developments, the two gentlemen certainly will be able to get in touch with one another. meantime, there are some individual stock stories of interest at this hour. and one of them concerns facebook. be a facebook lockup expires today and 150 million shares will open up on the market. the last time we had a lockup expiration many expected to see the stock drop. instead, it rallied. right now, no, not so much. facebook down about 89 cents so 3% at 2735. but it is up about 25% over the past three months. julia has the details for us from washington. >> tyler, this is the fourth of five lockup expiration periods. today's potential sellers could also sell in ipos. we shouldn't see any pent up demand to sell. facebook shares are dropping today, off about 3 percent percent as you mentioned. a bit of profit taking after the company's massive r
in places like washington, d.c., new york and los angeles. and the strike at the port of los angeles long beach is entering its seventh day this morning. contract talks between clerical workers and shippers have resumed. the walkout is dramatically slowed activity at the nation's a busiest cargo complex, dockworkers have refused to cross picket lines. >> this is a big deal. i don't know if you think this will have economic impact down the road. national retail federation is worry that had it will spread to the east coast just ahead of the christmas holidays when so many people are out shopping. really a bad time for them. >> it could. l.a. and long beach, biggest port in the united states. >> did you see on the waterfront? you don't mess with -- >> it's the clerical workers that are striking. >> it is? i'm not afraid of that. >> the dock workers don't want to cross the picket line of the clerical workers. >> oh, i'll cross that line. i thought it was the guys with the big boxes and they drop boks on you if you cross that -- will do you remember that? >> i lived in hoboken and i saw parts
are watching every move out of washington. the industrials opened higher by 45. the nasdaq would open higher by 10. the s&p 500 would open higher by six. >>> and the fed wrapping up its two-day meeting this afternoon. its latest policy statement is expected at 12:30 eastern. that will be followed by a news conference at 2:15 p.m. the fed is expected to announce a new round of bond purchases as its last program known as operation twist set to expire at the end of the month. we'll have special coverage at cnbc of the decision and ben bernanke's news conference starting at 12:15. we'll talk to steve leaseman live later in the program. >>> another story that you heard about yesterday, the -- you know, violence and death threats and blood and guts. big implications for big labor. that is michigan's decision to become a right-to-work state. thousands of protesters and union members converged on the capitol in lansing yesterday to object to the measure that would bar unions from requiring workers to pay membership dues and to join the union. governor snyder signed the measure into law. >> shouldn't
of different cross currents from what people were hearing yesterday in washington. market well above 100. >> ended up 85 for the day. >> i guess the demise of john boehner as speaker was greatly exaggerated. did you see this "new york times" piece? more support for boehner now than anytime in his speaker ship. is that's setting up for -- >> but it is social media and twitter allows to you see these things. >> sausage factory into the front of the kitchen. >> exactly. >> geithner didn't use the word marginal rates had to go up, just said rates. >> rates are already going up. there will be a tax increase to people making more than 250 anyway because of the health care law. so the idea that somehow they will get a freebie is just crazy. >> california at 52%, new york and other places -- >> when you add up all the state and local taxes. hawaii is above 50, as well. >> hawaii is worth it, though. >> california is not bad either. >> unless you need to drive somewhere. right? and don't have a helicopter. >> there's a reason the president takes a helicopter anywhere. you can't drive in d.c. sdl
-year, and this, when we used to go and see greenspan down in washington, he said everything else you have on your ticker, i need to see the 10 year. i need to see that every morning. nothing has happened in the ten year for the last -- i don't know. it's just not as interesting as it used to be to watch. when it's manipulated, it's not that interesting. >> one of the things about qe is that it's volatility. and you have seen implied vols down in all asset classes, including bonds. >> because things normally are volatile, that just shows us once again this is not letting things -- letting the chips fall where they may. >> yeah. i think it's baked into the cake. >> but i think he's on to something. the fact that the fed is there, the fact that the fed is trying to get ahead of the fiscal cliff and we've got these big bond buying programs. and the last time, remember, in august of 2011 when we had the last showdown, what happened? bonds rallied. >> and you said you want this to be fixed. you almost need the markets to be more volatile than they are. >> that's one of the theories that people have thr
of credit to the fed, perhaps, but also feel the debate shifted yesterday in washington. i began to hear way too many people say, you know what the president is curiously unengaged when it comes to cuts. i have always felt the president had the upper hand in this debate. i listened to bernanke and bernanke says, listen, i know they aren't going to come to deal. i see a lot of republicans on air saying we start to understand what they are they want as cuts. not hearing anything from the president. made me feel grim about the fiscal cliff, good about what the fed wants to do, very grim about the power of the fed, beyond what it's already done. >> the "wall street journal"/nbc news poll of americans about the fiscal cliff, some very interesting findings, just to that point, jim, two-thirds polled want congress to strike a deal and cut the budget, even if that means social security and medicare cuts. so, according to this poll, the people are saying, yes, go ahead, cut entitlements and say that obama has a mandate, among those that did not vote for obama, they have -- that they say that there is
big thing is no vacation without legislation. >> right. >> the "washington post" said as of last night, the halls of the capital were virtually deserted. >> cody's the only guy working there. that's embarrassing, isn't it? >> the president is scheduled to go to hawaii a week from today. >> it's boehner and obama. >> there are things, there's a telephone. understand, they have phone service in ohio and hawaii. >> there's an urgency here that dave cody gets. why? because he has said, i'm not hiring until we get this stuff fixed. now, why doesn't that -- well, everybody, the job, small business job creator. come on, man. honeywell hires. that means other towns do great. that means you get into a very virtuous cycle mode. david, it is not about the small businessman. the little businessman doesn't do well unless the big businessman does well. >> who are they selling to? >> honeywell just hired 200 people. >> no doubt about it. >> the opening bell here at the new york stock exchange for a friday. top of the screen, the s&p 500. nasdaq, avago technologies. >> single-family rentals, homes for
or the "washington post." 180 degrees. >> what did he mean? >> there's plenty for conspiracy theorists today. ties to all the central banks all around the world, they have these secret dinners every couple of months. as if the fed needed more distrust among fed watchers, right? >> i havend the privilege last r of going to a dinner with fisher, who is crucial -- you look at the diagram. this is just an alumni association that has allowed other people in. this is an m.i.t. thing. fisher is regarded as being the man who saved east asia in the '90s. you know, these guys have been more than upfront that there's a club. i think it's just being written about for the first time. >> yeah. mark, the consensus is $45 billion in monthly purchases of treasuries. that's what's expected. if we don't get that, a lot of market analysts believe that the markets will be extremely disappointed. this off of a string of gains. the first five-day winning streak for the dow since march. the dow, in fact, is at, what, the highest level since october 22nd. s&p the highest level since november 6th, which, of course, was the
with our xaernt washington correspondents. good morning, john. were you up all night? >> not all night, but we stayed on, of course, until 9:00 after it was clear that the house alternative had collapsed. but, joe, i was listening to your conversation earlier. this is not about the far left and the far right. this is about the republican party not being able to get its act together and figuring out and strategy and pursuing a strategy. >> i watched the press conference yesterday. all the reporterses, all the mainstream media reporters were saying, mr. boehner, why are you going through this exercise? this is an exercise in futility. why are you doing this? why even hold the vote? and then he can't do it and now all of you are going, see, see, you can't even do it. >> but it does raise questions about what this means for -- >> joe, it's not about the mainstream media. it's about the inability of this republican party to face the -- face political reality. the president was re-elected. his positions are much more popular where the country than theirs. they are locked into a caucus in the
cliff counter offer to president obama. eamon javers joins us now from washington with all the details. good evening. >> reporter: good evening. leapt me walk you through the specifics or at least what specifics we have so far from this boehner counter offer and you can see where it falls short from the white house's perspective right in the top line take a look at the details here. boehner and the other house republicans are asking for $800 billion in new tax reform revenue. that's short of the $1.6 trillion that the president would like to see there. also health savings of $600 billion. mandatory savings of $300 billion. revisions of cpa of 200 billion. other discretionary saving 300 billion. they say net savings is $2.2 trillion all told. the white house says this plan is not balanced, and interestingly there's a little side skirmish here between the speaker of the house john boehner and erskine bowls. boehner said this was based on a report that bowles laid out. bawls said no. he said the approach laid out does not represent the simpson-bowles plan or the bowles plan. in fact what
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, listening to that conversation, a few minutes before the opening bell, front page of the "washington post," investors aren't waiting for a deal. they're selling stock, they're trying to sell homes. they're setting up shelters, gifts for taxes. this discussion is not academic by any stretch of the imagination. >> we have to avoid the cliff, period. >> yes, we do. >> we do. to your point, carl, $20 billion in special dividends have been paid out this quarter. some of the economists said this would be a jump of income in the household, payouts to dividends, acceleration into this year. >> becky and jim, who have been doing amazing work on capitol hill, did talk to grover norquist, a bit of a rematch after cramer's appearance a couple of weeks ago with grover norquist. >> obama personally moved it out two years, because he didn't want to raise taxes and damage the economy, because he said the economy was weak. the economy's not strong now. so the argument to raise taxes now is not any better than it was two years ago. i think there's a real danger we could end up with some damaging tax increa
quickly here. john harward in washington here today. thanks a lot. the cheddar, bacon, onion sandwich that boosted sales for mcdonald's in december. >> steve liesman's exclusive interview with richmond fed president jeffrey lacquer. the lone dissenter at every fed policy meeting this year. more "squawk on the street" after this. the . >>> all right. if the sight of this sandwich makes your mouth water, then you are in luck. because the mcrib is back at mcdonald's today. but how much do limited time offers really impact on sales? we're here to break down the mcrib effect. ladies, great to have you with us. rachel, i'll start off with you. what sort of impact could we see potentially in the month of december? i read in the past, in 2010 at least, one of these limited introduction offers that it actually boosted sales by almost 5%. >> i think it depends on what the lto is and what the prior year same-store comparison is. i wouldn't expect to see a positive number of the magnitude that you're discussing. actually, frankly, it will probably be something in the single digit negatives. but a
of $300 billion. guys, it looks like the horse trading is alive and well here in washington. now this offer being extended from the republicans. you can assume that the white house will not think this is enough tax revenue to go forward, but, of course, offers are being exchanged here so that's a sign negotiations are under way, guys. >> let's get into the details here. $600 billion in health savings. what does that mean for medicare? break it down in terms of where these savings come from. >> i wish i could. what we don't have here is a lot of detail hanging off this christmas tree at this point. we're looking at a couple of bullet points being released now in terms of the scale of the deal. it gives us overall broad numbers. presumably negotiators would have to go in and fill in details of how they're get that kind of savings. there have been a lot of proposals on health of finding billions of dollars of savings by reducing overhead and other things like that. you've seen the unions come out and say they don't want to see any changes at all that would hurt payoffs to beneficiar
nanigans goi in washington. there are 535 people who have to think i want to keep my job. they'll decide to rise above. this is all going to be wonderful. in the meantime, if you're trying to figure out which way to go, i have traders out here who will tell you every day very difficult thing to do. >> isn't that the case. for sure. >> sandy, weigh in here. what would you be doing? >> actually i take a little bit different view. this fiscal cliff is a grander issue than just the united states. the drag in the u.s. is a big import to the rest of the world. stock markets are supposed to be leading economic indicators. if you look at the markets around the world from the last several weeks to months, the markets seem to be indicating just the opposite. they seem to be indicating that a deal will get done. what kind of deal whether it's one stage or two stage, nobody knows. but the fact of the matter is the equity markets tend to look three to six months out. they're giving good signs around the world. in europe, asia, emerging markets and here in the u.s. what i'd be doing is sitting on a we
cliff, and what do you make of the recent complacency? is there a wall street/washington disconnect? >> interesting question. well, i certainly hope that markets won't have to tank. i don't -- we want to have confidence, not just in markets but in businesses and households as well, and the best way the fiscal policy-makers can achieve that is by coming to a solution as quickly as possible. markets have obviously already responded to some extent, up and down. can you see from day to day how they respond to news about the negotiations. but, on the other hand, it's also true, if you look at experience, i think very informative experience of the debt limit debate in august of 2011, that both confidence and markets remain pretty sanguine up to pretty close to the point where it looked like there was actually a chance tat debt limit would not be raised. and then, of course, there was a pretty sharp shock particularly to confidence about the time of the -- you know, of the final debates so it's not unusual to see markets being complacent. of course, there's -- from the market point of view
. and our steve leesman is one of the lucky few who gets a question and he joins us now from washington. this is really something that not a lot of people expected, steve. >> i think that's right, tyler. and it is absolutely historic. fed for the first time putting economic targets around its funds rate projections and first of all, the other news was that it did end -- it said it would end to replace that so that brings the monthly purchases of long-term assets to $85 billion. i want to show you some math. the current level of the math call it 2.8 trillion. add a trillion to that, you will be at 3.8 trillion if we do go at this pace for a full year here. the precrisis level is $800 billion. i want it put it another way, tyler. increase the balance sheet from '09 to '12 by a trillion dollars. we will do that in one year. aggressive policy from the fed. unaggressive as tyler mentioned the idea of using economic targets for funds rate. we know they were talking about it. we know there was support. we didn't think the federal reserve had unanimity enough to do this. only jeff lacker from r
out of washington. but before we get to that, why don't we start with our day anticipates top story. the i.c.e. and the nyse are in talks. the numbers put the price tag at about $8 billion. >> we watched this -- now, you said you were watching this last night with kudlow, right? >> i did. >> did you think david faber? did you think when was book ending? on this, it went up last night. i don't know why this chart is showing no movement. it went up six points. >> yeah, right. >> that wouldn't even bring those -- because we watched. faber was talking about that last night. >> maybe if we show the prior day. >> that was the prior day. >> there's a glitch or something. >> that was the prior day that didn't show the after hours trading card. it was right about 720 been i think, wasn't it? >> and all this followed and it's a big story. >> well, it is. it's interesting because it's nyse euronext. >> and this isn't the first time that i.c.e. did this. >> no. you will are ebb that i.c.e. made a joint unsuccessful bid for control of the nyse last year. when the two withdrew their offers, they
's potentially on the market, if we don't make a deal in washington. >> scott, let me ask you again how you want to allocate capital then in that environment. i know george young is with us again, joining the conversation. i want to ask you the same question. go ahead, scott. how are you investing right now? >> maria, i think the best way forward is the way it's worked since the bottom of the market in 2009. risk assets are where it's at. the fed is very supportive. the consumer is back and engaged. housing is getting better. the fiscal cliff is actually constructive from the standpoint it causes people to come together and compromise because going over the cliff while we may do it for a short time period is not beneficial to anybody. it hurts everybody. >> so risk assets being, what, technology? what does that mean, technology? >> not necessarily. we would stay with dividend payers. we would also dip our toe into europe into some very high-quality, multicountry stocks there. mostly on consumer discretionary stocks as well. >> george, we haven't forgotten you yet. scott, i have a question for yo
on in town. in washington news, both parties hinting at renewed talks on the fiscal cliff. the acknowledgement of open lines of communication passed for encouraging news. a new survey finds more than 60% of leading investment professionals predict a shorp stock decline in the market if the government fails to come up with a deal. in this case defined as a more than 10% drop in the dow. 56% surveyed foresee a deal to avoid the cliff by year end, 44% predict failure in the ongoing negotiations. as for corporate america, through yesterday's close, there have been # 70 announcements of special dividends. these special difference deebds are valueded a more than $30.1 billion. among the latest names, mcgraw hill will pay a special dividends of $2.50 a share before year end. and drop its previously announced plan to buy back up to $200 million more of stock this year. >> everybody's paid their dividends this year, so they won't be paying them next year. >> this is a major issue. what's going to happen is -- we have two great economists onset. but that money will get annualized, s
christmas in washington, do they? >> you have thursday, friday and monday, right? >> you have a lot of aides prepared to come back after christmas to try and make sure they're not too far away from d.c. it does look encouraging. you've had movements on both sides. you've had boehner indicating that he's willing to accept and rising tax rate for the wealthiest. at the same time, you've had the president scaling back the limit to which those tax rates go up the. >> and they're not arguing about idealogical points any more. >> exactly. >> and what about the debt ceiling? do you think this gets thrown to the mix or not? >> well, i think the white house knows very strongly that as far as the markets are concerned, they want to try and get some kind of clarity for the next few months. after the last couple of years, no one really trusts the government or trusts the administration to not have a series of crisis and tiptoeing to the edge. so my bet is they will try to get some sort of deal. >> who has more trouble convincing the people they need to sign off? boehner could get enough with democrats a
in washington and how the fiscal cliff is likely to effect investment decisions. we have value investor leon cooperman, he's going to join us on set starting at 7:00 eastern time. then at 8:00 eastern, we have black op co-founder and ceo ralph schlosstein. and lynn hutchins will join us. we'll talk about what they see playing out and what they think is working when it comes to the markets now. >> the bill that the president says is in the house that he will sign if -- that's in the senate -- >> the senate. >> the senate that he will sign if the house passes it is what? >> that is $. >> -- that is 250? >> 250? >> he said 400. he said, i have the pen, let's keep tax rates where they are for everyone at 250 and below. so this one, that's c these guys are pretty clever because that would keep rates where they are for everyone at a million and below. no middle-class taxpayers up to a million dollars -- >> that's no matter what, isn't it, in either bill? >>yon r -- i think it would be the same in either one. that's not -- what reid and i guess pelosi, you saw that, said she opposes the million-dol
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to the council on foreign relations in new york, duke says what's going on in washington could affect their holiday shopping plans. >> the week before the election, only 1/4, 25% of our core customers even knew what fiscal cliff meant. okay? one week after the election, it was up to 75%. now these same customers, 15% of our customers are telling us this discussion about fiscal cliff will affect what they spend on christmas. >> and most americans aren't close to finished with holiday shopping yet. giving retailers a hope for a big boost in the last few weeks beforesom christmas. 58% of those surveyed said they completed half or less of their holiday shopping so far. i've got a little guilt on that front. >>> joining us for more, global ceo of sanrio. welcome. waving to the world there. >> yes. >> happy holiday. >> wearing your brand, as well. >> happy holiday from mr. mann. >> we should point out that mr. men is a key part of your strategy which is changing, is it not? >> exactly. last year we started to did mergers. this is our first acquisition, international acquisition. >> which is
are headed to washington. let us know what's happening. >> he's going to fix it. >> we're going to have pizza. >> make sure you join us tomorrow. "squawk on the street" is next. ♪ >>> led zeppelin to wash away monday blues. congrats to the band for winning kennedy center honors last night. welcome to "squawk on the street." i'm carl quintanilla along with jim cramer, david faber live at nyse. melissa will join us in the next hour. we're kicking off the month of december with strength. anticipating good auto numbers today. greece unveiling that $10 billion eurobond buyback. a 52-week high in france and germany. our road map this morning begins in washington where fiscal cliff negotiations according to the "times" has "collapsed." at least for now. with less than a month until the deadline, who blinks first if anyone? >> goldman takes dell from a strength to a buy. is it time to look at the stock and maybe even other players in the beat up personal computer sector? >> manufacturing data out of china. not bad. 50.6. that's the highest in seven months. although shanghai again trades lower even
for 98% of americans and raise the debt celling so we can at least for a year put washington in the rear-view mirror. wow, can you believe that? there'll be some spending cuts to apiece the republicans, too, once they've bothered to identify the cuts they actually want. as much as some may believe that there's no incentive to run partisanship, the dramatic rates of income these fiscal rates give to tens of millions of americans who happen to be voters. of the 2 million jobs that could be lost, 1 million of them will most likely comes from the defense sector. at a time when china is rising. you see those planes land on that aircraft carrier this week? the middle east is boiling. i don't know. did we really want that big defense budget cut? i mean, maybe nothing more than the decline in spending is the war in afghanistan winds down. saving about half a trillion dollars over the time. maybe more. the areas where the defense job losses take place they look mighty red to me, at least on the electoral map. yes, you'll have to say goodbye to the fabulous 15% dividend rates and the capital gains
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